open to suggestions

[Bacardi Jim]

Will remember the patches and where did you buy for $12?

At CompUSA, back when they had a brick-and-mortar store here. I see that Amazon currently has a used-like-new copy for $15 + $3 shipping. Worth every penny, given the length of the game.

[EDIT: I was looking at the boxed version of the game. You can jet jewel-case versions quite a bit cheaper through Amazon.]

[The Black Dahlia]

So noted BJ and after I am through the present ones I have, will check your game out - sounds fascinating from your review.,

[Faust]

I would add Dragon Age : Origins , Elder Scrolls : Oblivion , Divinity II : Ego Draconis (liked it a lot !) , & Hunted : The Demon's Forge to that list . Also , any of the old Dungeons & Dragons based rpg games (Icewind Dale 1&2 , Baldurs Gate 1&2 , Planescape Torment , Temple of Elemental Evil , etc .) would be a great way to become familiar with the rpg world !

[Bacardi Jim]

I would add Dragon Age : Origins , Elder Scrolls : Oblivion , Divinity II : Ego Draconis (liked it a lot !) , & Hunted : The Demon's Forge to that list . Also , any of the old Dungeons & Dragons based rpg games (Icewind Dale 1&2 , Baldurs Gate 1&2 , Planescape Torment , Temple of Elemental Evil , etc .) would be a great way to become familiar with the rpg world !

Planescape: Torment was very well written. I generally hate the Quake/Diablo engine, much preferring turn-based combat. But at least P:T let you set the combat to pause when it was time for someone in your party to act. It was a nice compromise and a wickedly dark and funny game.

If ES:O is the game I'm thinking of, I hated the combat. You actually had to move the mouse around to swing your sword. (1st-person perspective) Great open world exploration, but I couldn't handle the combat. Baldur's Gate really started it all, and were great games. As far as ToEE and the other D&D-based RPGs (Eye of the Beholder, etc.), I can't be objective. I liked them a lot, but was already a devout D&D player long before those games came out. So I can't judge how someone who isn't already a D&D geek would like them.

[Faust]

I used to play D&D a long time ago . I played dwarf fighters with a Chaotic Neutral alignment . Had a lot of fun playing that alignment ! Oblivion is first person . I would rather play first person , however , I can adapt to third person no problem ! I have a disc copy of Planescape , & have not played it in some time . I've got a ton of games on my "to play" pile .

[Bacardi Jim]

I recall Oblivion as being first-person too, but not turn-based and having to manually swing your sword around using the mouse.

[Bacardi Jim]

For Quake/Diablo engine fans, Torchlight was pretty decent. Less successful than Fate, but I enjoyed it more.

[The Black Dahlia]

Oh my, my list of games to try, taste, play just grows and grows. May have to take some of these games into the beyond with me Noting them all down guys and keeping all remarks in mind. Many thanks for continued interest in this thread.